War pornography
“The following programme contains scenes of sexual nature and strong language from the start”
We hear the above before showing an adult movie on TV.
And we hear the following before broadcasting reports from Baghdad, Baquoba, Kirkuk or Amara:
“What you are about to watch includes events which some viewers might find disturbing and distressing”.
How considerate and thoughtful of them.
I highly respect and appreciate human rights. And I am all for the freedom of speech, the freedom of choice and even the freedom of putting a veil on. But I cannot categorize the freedom of following or ignoring an ongoing war under any of the above.
These scenes and reports should be enforced and made mandatory to watch.
It is very easy to sit and say “Oh war is horrible, I don’t want to see this” , and believe me people in here do turn off or switch over to other channels, and then go to bed and get on with their lives.
But it would not be as easy if these scenes haunt you and make you toss and turn all night.
Bush and Blair think that history will substantiate their plans and value their role in the War against Terror. They are sure it will be celebrated as another D Day (National memorial to the allied forces who participated in World WarII).
Indeed it will!
I am not writing this for Bush and Blair because I think they are both hopeless cases. But I am writing to the people who are still defending and giving various excuses to this tragedy. And not only that, they are attacking Iraqi bloggers( kid , Miraj,treasure )and accusing them of being Baathists or backing Sunni insurgents and so on.
For a change I am not going to talk about the invasions’ accomplishments!
But about the Iraqis. Our dear American readers love to put the blame on us and love to clear their conscience from the guilt on our account so let it be.
I don’t believe criminals and killers were born with this inclination. But I strongly believe that your surroundings and circumstances can make you one.
Amara sits on the biggest oil field in Iraq and yet it was and still is the poorest city in Iraq.
Basra our only port, oil rich and the home of millions of date trees was a battle front in two devastating wars. It lost everything not only her sons but her palm trees as well.
Sader city, over a million and a half inhabitants, situated in Baghdad was a rubbish dump and her sons the fuel of Saddam’s adventures.
Najaf, one of the holiest cities to Muslims was stripped off its role and turned to a dirty and ignored ghost city.
The country was ruled by a bunch of gangsters. These rulers destroyed the social structure before physically destroying the country.
We had a culture of reporting on each other, not only for financial gains but for fear of being accused of not reporting when hearing comments or jokes against the regime!
As a kid in school, I was ordered to bring my father’s and mother’s certificate of nationality; to prove none of them is of Persian origin! And since my mother was of one, I still remember I passed water while handing her certificate to the principal.
And my experience is nothing compared to others, but I have a scar. Others have bitterness and distrust and the frustration of living in poverty and deprivation in a supposedly rich country.
Still, we were not ready for your democracy if you believe you came all the way to install one.
Yes we voted and we are responsible for the idiots who represent us at the moment, but we never had proper elections before and we don’t know how and whom.
I hate the word tribe, and when I see tribal leaders meeting on TV, I wish I can just shut them up for ever. And the same goes for religious groups.
Many of Iraqis have the same feelings, but we are minority. This is how our society has become and it will require a long time to regain its sanity.
We were not given a chance to celebrate Saddam’s fall, we had no time to lick our wounds and cry over the mass graves. The doors of hell were opened and we were stormed by Takfiris and Wahabis who grouped with other local criminals and ex-regime gangs.
War brought lawlessness and made our blood cheap and worthless. It only added more scars and more distrust and ruined all our hopes.
Nothing, absolutely nothing can justify a war.
So please stop kidding yourselves. We are all against this war.
We hear the above before showing an adult movie on TV.
And we hear the following before broadcasting reports from Baghdad, Baquoba, Kirkuk or Amara:
“What you are about to watch includes events which some viewers might find disturbing and distressing”.
How considerate and thoughtful of them.
I highly respect and appreciate human rights. And I am all for the freedom of speech, the freedom of choice and even the freedom of putting a veil on. But I cannot categorize the freedom of following or ignoring an ongoing war under any of the above.
These scenes and reports should be enforced and made mandatory to watch.
It is very easy to sit and say “Oh war is horrible, I don’t want to see this” , and believe me people in here do turn off or switch over to other channels, and then go to bed and get on with their lives.
But it would not be as easy if these scenes haunt you and make you toss and turn all night.
Bush and Blair think that history will substantiate their plans and value their role in the War against Terror. They are sure it will be celebrated as another D Day (National memorial to the allied forces who participated in World WarII).
Indeed it will!
I am not writing this for Bush and Blair because I think they are both hopeless cases. But I am writing to the people who are still defending and giving various excuses to this tragedy. And not only that, they are attacking Iraqi bloggers( kid , Miraj,treasure )and accusing them of being Baathists or backing Sunni insurgents and so on.
For a change I am not going to talk about the invasions’ accomplishments!
But about the Iraqis. Our dear American readers love to put the blame on us and love to clear their conscience from the guilt on our account so let it be.
I don’t believe criminals and killers were born with this inclination. But I strongly believe that your surroundings and circumstances can make you one.
Amara sits on the biggest oil field in Iraq and yet it was and still is the poorest city in Iraq.
Basra our only port, oil rich and the home of millions of date trees was a battle front in two devastating wars. It lost everything not only her sons but her palm trees as well.
Sader city, over a million and a half inhabitants, situated in Baghdad was a rubbish dump and her sons the fuel of Saddam’s adventures.
Najaf, one of the holiest cities to Muslims was stripped off its role and turned to a dirty and ignored ghost city.
The country was ruled by a bunch of gangsters. These rulers destroyed the social structure before physically destroying the country.
We had a culture of reporting on each other, not only for financial gains but for fear of being accused of not reporting when hearing comments or jokes against the regime!
As a kid in school, I was ordered to bring my father’s and mother’s certificate of nationality; to prove none of them is of Persian origin! And since my mother was of one, I still remember I passed water while handing her certificate to the principal.
And my experience is nothing compared to others, but I have a scar. Others have bitterness and distrust and the frustration of living in poverty and deprivation in a supposedly rich country.
Still, we were not ready for your democracy if you believe you came all the way to install one.
Yes we voted and we are responsible for the idiots who represent us at the moment, but we never had proper elections before and we don’t know how and whom.
I hate the word tribe, and when I see tribal leaders meeting on TV, I wish I can just shut them up for ever. And the same goes for religious groups.
Many of Iraqis have the same feelings, but we are minority. This is how our society has become and it will require a long time to regain its sanity.
We were not given a chance to celebrate Saddam’s fall, we had no time to lick our wounds and cry over the mass graves. The doors of hell were opened and we were stormed by Takfiris and Wahabis who grouped with other local criminals and ex-regime gangs.
War brought lawlessness and made our blood cheap and worthless. It only added more scars and more distrust and ruined all our hopes.
Nothing, absolutely nothing can justify a war.
So please stop kidding yourselves. We are all against this war.
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Beautiful, the pain the rage the anger. Passion if I have ever seen it. Hold on to it, for it is you passion that will save you.
By madtom, at 10:01 pm
madtom
Are you an artist?
Only artist or someone who do not understand what pain is can call pain "beautiful"
By Anonymous, at 10:45 pm
Sorry, Hala, but I do have to say Baghdad Treasure supports the insurgents and has for quite a while.
He did again right here in this comment section on Mad canuck's blog:
Mad Canuck
I used to like Baghdad Treasure, but something has happened to him. I haven't even read his blog since last spring. I cannot abide an Iraqi who thinks it's funny, or a cause for celebration, when American troops are killed in Iraq. Especially because he works for an American newspaper, and he has been living in teh United States for some months now. I think that makes him not only an enemy of the US, but a serious hypocrit.
But not as bad as Raed Jarrar.
I don't know about the Kid and Miraj, I don't follow their writings very closely. Aunt Najma openly made a post stating she supported the insurgency and the Mujihedeen, over a year ago. She made no bones about it.
People are entitled to their opinions, but they aren't entitled to blame the US or the Iraqi government for failing to provide security, while at the same time they support the insurgents who make that task impossible.
My 2 cents. I tried to find out whether Miraj supported the insurgency yesterday on her blog, but she asked me to get off her blog instead of answering, so I never did find out about how she really feels.
By Anonymous, at 7:23 am
I'm stunned Mr. Canuck thinks Raed Jarrar is a hypocrit. Why? Because he's living in the US but abhorrs Bush's war? That makes at least 50% of Americans hypocrits then. I guess to some extent I am disappointed in myself for not leaving when Bush started this war, or got his tainted second term (more voting issues come up with every investigation).
But I know Bush will leave and his cronies cannot hold on to power forever.
So does my faith in the limits of US gov and the quick overturn of Bush's pro-torture law by the Supreme Court make me an enemy of the state?
Bush doesn't care about my natal US citizenship. Does the Canuk?
I have alwasy deeply admired the entire Jarrar family for their bravery in posting by their full names and their wisdom and staunch anti-war stand.
Raed may not profess any particular faith, but he demonstrates more Christian belief and action than most US Christians that I know.
WWJD? He sure as hell would not be bombing Iraq, let alone using white phosphorous, new and improved napalm and depleted uranium!
So who's the real hypocrit in the USA?
seb
By Anonymous, at 2:34 pm
Mad Canuck said none of those things. I did. Big Pharoah explaisn the phenomena of arabs who want to see Americans killed going to America pretty well here:
Why do anti-America people flock to America?
I've gotten into a few times before and have no intention of doing so again. Raed Jarrar has called for Americans in Iraq to be killed - while heas in Iraq. That makes him an enemy of the United States. Not figuratively. LITERALLY. He should not be here.
By Anonymous, at 6:39 pm
Raed Jarrar just commited a crime while on US soil. Any threat to a citizen is a crime.
By Anonymous, at 8:11 pm
Dear Hala,
maybe it is high time that you (and the other Iraqi bloggers) kick the most beastly of these pro-war, pro-Bush posters out (such as the simian Craig and this lying animal 'Wanda').
All they ever said was lies and propaganda: and they haven't even got the guts to admit: 'Sorry, we were wrong from the start'.
By Anonymous, at 11:23 pm
so if you then defend the american mission of supporting the government and their shia militias' sectarian violence that's cool? not hypocritical at all?
people have a right to support violence just as long as they pretend it's not happening? ok. whatever.
then people fleeing iraq aren't fleeing persecution, but actually cowards that don't want to fight for liberation.
what exactly does one have to do to prove they love freedom and aren't a baathist? cut their own head off?
By Anonymous, at 12:52 am
"Any threat to a citizen is a crime"
Must be a joke!!! How cool when people do what ever they like on others’ lands while they act like quite good citizens in their own countries with such firm laws.
I guess you do have a law against racism too? Still I can’t see your citizens apply it when they keep asking us about not only our religion but whether we are Shia or Sunni.
An Italian, some people are paid to harass us on our own blogs so the world wouldn't know the truth and real percentage of Americans who appose the war.
By Anonymous, at 3:03 am
I don't understand this post of yours.
So it was bad under Saddam and it is bad now.
What do you suggest, then?
Whine?
Good for you to let your emotions out. But I am also entitled to an opinion: this post is a waste of time to anyone who wants to learn something.
By Anonymous, at 4:23 am
An Italian, some people are paid to harass us on our own blogs so the world wouldn't know the truth and real percentage of Americans who appose the war.
What the hell are you trying to imply, Miraj? You think anyone who doesn't share your opinions is being paid? You say this after you complain that other people imply you have ulterior motives? I see Raed Jarrar and Baghdad Treasure aren't teh only hippocrits in the Irai blogosphere.
The fact that you seem to like this Italaian dude, who is nothing but a cheerleader for misery and death in Iraq so that he can have his leftist opinions vindicated tells me all I need to know about you. You've asked me to leave your blog and I have. Let that be good enough.
By Anonymous, at 6:11 am
I'm sorry hala_s. I do agree that nothing justifies a war. There was no legitimate reason for America to invade Iraq. I pray that we Americans can figure out some way to make up for all this agony to the Iraqis. Although, how to fully make up for such madness, I can not imagine. It is my hope that we will reach a point where some day the Iraqis could find it in their hearts to forgive us. ---mls
By Anonymous, at 8:56 am
what about those freaks harassing zeyad on his blog after he talked about his friend dying?
i don't have any trouble seeing why some people would want to believe that no one could genuinely be that callous and stupid. people like that (that seriously think people that don;t fit their worldview don't have a right to speak) definitely exist and are for real, though. it's unfortunate, blogs like this attract people that are more extreme, there's a majority of sane, moderate people that you guys don't really get to encounter. at least not enough.
pro-war, anti-war, and in between.
if i was iraqi i would just write in arabic and not bother with it. life's hard enough.
By Anonymous, at 11:32 am
also as an aside, americans have a right to freedom of speech that includes racist speech. in canada and europe there are limits on that kind of thing, but not in the us, as far as i know.
By Anonymous, at 12:06 pm
also as an aside, americans have a right to freedom of speech that includes racist speech.
Arabs in the middle-east also have this right. In fact, I'd venture to guess there is more overt racism and religious bigotry on display on Arab television, print media and *gasp* blogs, than anywhere else in the world.
By Anonymous, at 5:41 pm
Also, Nadia,
there's a majority of sane, moderate people that you guys don't really get to encounter. at least not enough.
The moderate (sane) people got run off the Iraqi blogs by the European crazies and their constant heckling abuse. A couple years ago. The only people who remain willing to discuss political issues on Iraqi blogs are the people whoo enjoy trading insults with cretins like Bruno, An Italian, Nader, etc.
Whose fault is that?
By Anonymous, at 5:46 pm
Hala, this is an account of the birth of a nation from one of the few survivors:
"For the fire...spread from sea to sea, fed by the hands of our foes in the east, and did not cease, until, destroying the neighbouring towns and lands, it reached the other side of the island, and dipped its red and savage tongue in the western ocean. In these assaults...all the columns were levelled with the ground by the frequent strokes of the battering-ram, all the husbandmen routed, together with their bishops, priests, and people, whilst the sword gleamed, and the flames crackled around them on every side. Lamentable to behold, in the midst of the streets lay the tops of lofty towers, tumbled to the ground, stones of high walls, holy altars, fragments of human bodies, covered with livid clots of coagulated blood, looking as if they had been squeezed together in a press; and with no chance of being buried, save in the ruins of the houses, or in the ravening bellies of wild beasts and birds; with reverence be it spoken for their blessed souls, if, indeed, there were many found who were carried, at that time, into the high heaven by the holy angels...Some, therefore, of the miserable remnant, being taken in the mountains, were murdered in great numbers; others, constrained by famine, came and yielded themselves to be slaves for ever to their foes, running the risk of being instantly slain, which truly was the greatest favour that could be offered them: some others passed beyond the seas with loud lamentations instead of the voice of exhortation...Others, committing the safeguard of their lives, which were in continual jeopardy, to the mountains, precipices, thickly wooded forests, and to the rocks of the seas (albeit with trembling hearts), remained still in their country."
Do you know what nation that was?
By Anonymous, at 8:58 pm
Hala,
This mentality of pro-war will remain, you can't do anything about it. People like you, like Kid, Miraj and many other Bloggers must keep on writing, not to convince those who support war, but to show others who are not aware of the truth - there are a lot of people opposing the war, but they don't have enough information on what really happens in Iraq.
look what Kid did today: a tribute for friends... tears were shed for those beautiful and innocent souls. This is what we should do, keep on writing / talking / showing and let the whole world listen - I sound like a politician running for elections la samehelleh LOL
Programmer craig,
I don't support anyone but my own people, but it is not necessary that someone being anti-war and anti-bush automatically branded as supporter or a certain group killing Americans and non-Americans
By MixMax, at 10:03 pm
I have just finished watching this
www.bbc.co.uk/thisworld.
A horrifying documentary about a day in Yermouk hospital in Baghdad.
They said you can watch it on the above link. I couldn't but maybe you can if you have the right software.
Craig,
No I don't know which nation you are talking about. I am sure one day our nation will survive, but on what cost?
I am sorry that my post wasn't clear to some and made no point. But, since some say all bloggers seem to be Sunnis, I wanted to give a shia point of view.
in the above link, you will see Shia screaming for Saddam to be back. A woman said let him come and starve us, let him come and kill us, instead of this hell.
I cannot say that, and probably I will never be able to, but who am I and where am I to judge?
mixmax,
welcome to my blog and thank you for commenting
By hala_s, at 10:29 pm
@ Miraj,3:03 AM.
"An Italian, some people are paid to harass us on our own blogs so the world wouldn't know the truth and real percentage of Americans who oppose the war".
Dear Miraj, for sure there are people paid by the US Government to spread their pro-war propaganda on blogs (and I stated at The Kid's blog why I deem that 'ella' and 'katrin' are precisely of this sort), but I feel that mindless fanatics and liars like those who comment at 'Iraq The Minion' and like our Ape Craig do it on their own instead.
Indeed, since the Iraqi blogs in English aren't read only by Americans, critters like 'Craig' for sure do not help the US case (actually, when I found an Italian who is not convinced enough of the criminality of the pro-war and pro-US position, I make him/her read the comments page
at ITM!); so that the US Govt. (if it had any sense) should in case pay them NOT to write!
And I am glad that of late, since the real tragedy that the US war of aggression caused to Iraq cannot be hidden any more, a greater number of sane and human Americans find the courage to comment at Iraqi blogs, against their Administration.
By Anonymous, at 1:05 am
Mixmax,
but it is not necessary that someone being anti-war and anti-bush automatically branded as supporter or a certain group killing Americans and non-Americans
I never saw Najma say she supported killing Americans. But I did see her say that she supported the Sunni insurgency. "I'm with the Mujihedeen" are the words she used, I think. She made a whole post about it.
Raed Jarrar has said that he thinks Americans in Iraq should be killed. Baghdad Treasure didn't say it explicitly like Raed did, but he doesn't make any secret of the fact that he fully supports attacks on US troops.
I didn't say anybody who is anti-war and anti-Bush is... well... I didn't even make a comment about that. Somebody who is pro-insurgency is not "anti-war" - that is a PRO-WAR person. They just aren't on the same side as me and my country.
Hala, that was a description of the invasion by german tribes that resulted in the formation of England, some 1600 years ago.
By Anonymous, at 1:15 am
hi craig
Arabs in the middle-east also have this right. In fact, I'd venture to guess there is more overt racism and religious bigotry on display on Arab television, print media and *gasp* blogs, than anywhere else in the world.
to a degree that it is true, i think this is largely a consequence that they don't have freedom of political speech.
i.e. say in egypt or saudi arabia you can't criticize the government and their policies, so they allow people to foment their anger in jingoistic ways. as religious figures are some of the few figures/venues given freedom, this unrest often manifests itself in stupid ways (ie the cartoon protests, anti jewish, anti western sentiment) and does not address the real political issue (say a criticism of the egyptian government's relationship to israel/the united states.)
sorry craig if you were just making a polemic point there to put down arab culture and weren't expecting an actual response.
By Anonymous, at 7:22 am
The moderate (sane) people got run off the Iraqi blogs by the European crazies and their constant heckling abuse. A couple years ago. The only people who remain willing to discuss political issues on Iraqi blogs are the people whoo enjoy trading insults with cretins like Bruno, An Italian, Nader, etc.
Whose fault is that?
so you think it's the fault of everyone you disagree with and only them? i'm sorry you are either blind or lying.
and you think threatening to have people deported is constructive discussion? or that time you told me i want to kill jews, did you come to the conclusion that these people are baathists in the same way?
do you think your views are squeaky clean if by the occupation you're supporting the current government and their militias and death squads? oh right you support freedom and democracy, i bet you couldn't even tell me how many newspapers and tv stations the iraqi government has shut down/shut out.
give me a break.
these people are going through hell and we're still here having the same debates/childish bickering about what we thought over three years ago. who cares? we should try and have a little respect for them at least.
"they started it" as an excuse doesn't work in elementary school, and it shouldn't work here.
anyways i don't want to take over this comment box.
if you want to continue this here:
hassibah @ gmail . com
By Anonymous, at 7:46 am
Nadia,
sorry craig if you were just making a polemic point there to put down arab culture and weren't expecting an actual response.
Why would I want to put down arab culture? My best friend is an arab muslim. I wasn't trying to make any kind of point, other than responding to Miraj when she said this:
I guess you do have a law against racism too? Still I can’t see your citizens apply it when they keep asking us about not only our religion but whether we are Shia or Sunni.
I'm not sure why miraj thinks asking a blogger if they are shia or sunni is "racism" when it's not even consider it religious bigotry. Religious bigotry is when you attack somebody's religion. Asking is perfectly normal. I ask people if they're Catholic all the time if they start talking about God, because I know that there isn't much common ground between me (a Protestant) and a Catholic, and such a conversation would be bound to end poorly. And there are many government forms here in the US that ask what your religion/denomination is. I found Miraj's statement baffling, and I couldn't think of any other way to respond than to point out she thinks asking such a question is bigotry because of the amount of bigotry there is in Iraq and other places in the ME.
so you think it's the fault of everyone you disagree with and only them? i'm sorry you are either blind or lying.
There's a difference between disagreeing with somebody and being abusive. The people I named (Bruno, Italian, Nader, etc) are ALL abusive, ALL the time.
People get tired of being insulted and attacked on a personal level for stating their opinions, Nadia.
and you think threatening to have people deported is constructive discussion?
I'm not interested in having a discussion with Raed Jarrar. And yes, I do want him deported. I can't believe the Department of Homeland Security ever gave him a visa to enter the US in the first place.
I'll continue in e-mail since you asked. No point in dragging up all kinds of dirty laundry in Hala's comment section.
By Anonymous, at 8:06 am
also hala i understood what you were getting at. it's something i've been thinking about a lot. thanks for posting it.
and sorry craig i don't agree, just going by what i've seen on this blog a lot of it is simply what i would call bullying, a lot of it petty, and a lot of it very unnecessary. you do have a choice about what battles you pick.
By Anonymous, at 8:24 am
I know that I am getting in between Naida and Craig debate lol, but I was taking a break while I am at work when decided to read your blog about Ramadan. I decided to comment quickly before I get back to my work, in spite of that Ramadan is already ended. However, I thought my comments might be of some comfort, not in the days of Ramadan, but for always, Hala
Those programmes started to get into my nerves. I felt jealous. Why do we have to be different? Why can’t we have their problems?
Why our problems have to be unsolvable? Why is it our turn all the time? Why can’t these wars happen somewhere else?
I liked this attempte of comparing the lives Iraqis have at the moment with the rest of the Arabic world. I am not going to make a comparison with the west for obvious reasons.
I agree with Miraj when she pledged to you to be stronger:
I don't know if hearing the news of your family is harder than living their conditions but you must be stronger.
I pledge to you the same, to be always stronger. In fact, your family who are going through hard times need you to be stronger. I am confident that they are very proud of you, proud of the way you think, you feel and the sensetivity you have within yourself (which is obvious from your writing and not based on personal aquaintance). This feeling must make you stronger, the feeling that the ones you love is proud of you.
I realize that long working hours, difficulty to socialize make the situation harder.
Everyday I am like you, listening to the news, reading countless news bulletins, to be honest with anyone reading this comments, I am not doing this because I want to check out the events in Iraq, rather than hoping for just a glimse of light in that long tunnel Iraqi were forced to live within. I mentioned many times on my blog and during discussions with other friends: I might look for a miracle to take place in Iraq, despite that I don't believe in miracles, at least in this time.
It might be funny, but I imagine Iraqi bloggers as stars, each one in a different galaxy. They communicate with each other with their strength, and this strength shines, others can see the glowing of that star and smile, be happy that the star he used to watch from time to time is ok and did write something.
You are one of those stars, let it shine like many other Iraqi bloggers shine with their thoughts and writings, hopefully (just hoping) that the glowing of your and the others will contribute in bringing the light closer to our beloved people so they can find the end of that dark tunnel.
By MixMax, at 2:57 pm
Nadia,
and sorry craig i don't agree, just going by what i've seen on this blog a lot of it is simply what i would call bullying
Bullying? I've been called everything from a murderer and a war criminal to an incompetent retard by euro-trash, and south african trash like Bruno, on Iraqi blogs. Why? Because I had the audacity to prove that some of the things they were saying were complete fabrications.
I'm not going to rehash old arguments, but if I could do more than "bully", I would. I have a right to protect myself from verbal assault. Which is what the aforementioned blog trolls do. Verbal assault. Not debate.
By Anonymous, at 6:26 pm
It's interesting that no one lays any blame on Al-Qaeda here. The invasion of Iraq toppled a tyrant and left a vacuum. And Al-Qaeda entered the vacuum, not to defend 'their fellow muslims', but to kill them. Open season on shias. Attack schools; blow up important mosques.
I can certainly see why the arab world is becoming anti-US because of the Iraq tradegy. I wonder if they are also becoming anti-al-Qaeda.
By Anonymous, at 7:34 pm
craig
i'm just going by what i've seen and i haven't seen either "side" of things be innocent.
i was referring to an incident on this blog in particular, where you went out of your way to attack this guy, i think it was zz, and say you were going to have him deported. i don't recall him saying anything about the mujahideen and i thought that was pretty unnecessary. even if you thought otherwise, i don't see what fighting about it here is going to solve.
By Anonymous, at 4:25 am
Oh, I remember that, Nadia... it was an Iraqi woman who was reading the names of American war dead (without the families permission) as part of an anti-war protest.
I didn't threaten to have her deported. I said I thought she deserved to be deported. In turn, she threatened to complain to the FBI that I was violating her civil rights, and I told her that would be a good idea :)
The only person I have filed a complaint against with Department of Homeland Security is Raed Jarrar. He's still here, though, posing as Palestinian activist. I hope whenever they catch up with Raed they fire whatever crooked bureaucrat who approved his immigration visa. If they don't put an Iraqi, living in Iraq, who advocates death of Americans in Iraq on the no-fly list and/or terrorist watch list, then who DO they put on it?
By Anonymous, at 4:53 am
IanRae said...
It's interesting that no one lays any blame on Al-Qaeda here.
The invasion of Iraq toppled a tyrant and left a vacuum. And Al-Qaeda entered the vacuum, not to defend 'their fellow muslims', but to kill them. Open season on shias. Attack schools; blow up important mosques.
I can certainly see why the arab world is becoming anti-US because of the Iraq tradegy. I wonder if they are also becoming anti-al-Qaeda.
Defenitely, both share the guilt of killing innocent civilians in Iraq. But you said it, the invasion toppled a tyrant and left a vacuum! I thuoght that the invasion was to get rid of the tyrant and bring peace, freedom and democracy!! Didn't they said that all along?
The blame is on the US because they are in control of everything, and as an occupier they are responsible for restoring peace and order, or should order and protection be applied only to the ministry of Oil and the green zone?
By MixMax, at 5:44 am
[craig] “I cannot abide an Iraqi who thinks it's funny, or a cause for celebration, when American troops are killed in Iraq.”
Yeah, what a radical, eh? Only a complete loon would support the national defence of his country.
You can’t abide around 60% of Iraqis, then, because that is the percentage actively cheering on the attacks on your invading forces. Not surprising since 87% of Iraqis want a timetable for your withdrawal.
Speaking of funny, did you see what the Muqawama did to Camp Falcon?
Now, THAT was hilarious!
[craig] “The moderate (sane) people got run off the Iraqi blogs by the European crazies and their constant heckling abuse”
Aaah, sweet victory at last! And now we are clearing out the “dead-enders” … like yourself.
People, we have to remember where Craig is coming from. His “moderates” are the sort of drooling redneck trolls that infest forums like LGF and the ITM comments. The sort of Bill O Reilly people who want to “bomb the living daylights” out of Arabs and Muslims, whether they are combatants or not. Damn right we ran them off.
[craig] “Because I had the audacity to prove that some of the things they were saying were complete fabrications.”
Now that really IS amusing … not to mention a complete fabrication. Strange that all I recall is beating your warped statements over and over with the hammer of REALITY until they broke. I do hope that the red flush of embarrassment has faded from your cheeks by now.
[craig] “He's [raed] still here, though, posing as Palestinian activist.”
Umm, no. Raed is a bona fide American citizen. Ruminate on that as you grit your teeth.
By Bruno, at 11:01 am
[mixmax] “I don't support anyone but my own people, but it is not necessary that someone being anti-war and anti-bush automatically branded as supporter or a certain group killing Americans and non-Americans”
Sorry, Mixmax, your stance is not acceptable to the New America. It has made it amply clear that if “you are not with us you are against us”. Their neocon nutjob leaders don’t believe that there can be a middle ground. Your rational stance does not mesh with their hysterical irrationality. And if I have to choose, I don’t choose them.
Rational, sane, Americans must get rid of these pestilential lying leaders as soon as is humanly possible.
By Bruno, at 11:05 am
[ian] “It's interesting that no one lays any blame on Al-Qaeda here.”
The truth is that Al Qaeda never was a serious Player in Iraq. If you manage to laboriously dig through the utter bullshit that is spewed as a smokescreen by CENTCOM and the credulous MSM, you’ll find that AQ never did have more than one or two hundred people in Iraq at any given time.
The US tends to re-label any Iraqi resistance as Al Qaeda, where the truth is that the GREAT majority of Iraqis are totally against bin Laden. In fact, the whole Zarqawi fantasy was an exercise in Psyops, where the US successfully took advantage of this fact to concentrate on a wholly insignificant butcher and to paste his face over the face of the native Iraqi Resistance.
I mean, to take a recent ludicrous CENTCOM statement as an example, where they said the Anbar province was now under the control of Al Qaeda. As if the Iraqi tribes would allow some useless foreigners to dictate TO THEM what to do. Riiight.
To the average American, who is the target audience of all this spinning, it is quite easy to swallow. After all, anybody killing US troops must be a TERRORIST, and if you are a TERRORIST then you are probably Al Qaeda, right? That’s the Bush admin spin, and it is necessary to justify their presence in Iraq, making as if they are fighting Al Qaeda as opposed to legitimate Iraqi Resistance.
While behind the scenes the unit tasked to hunt bin Laden down has been disbanded, Musharraf has made peace with the Waziristan tribes that are likely sheltering the said bin Laden (which Bush had no problem with) and US senators like Frist are advocating PEACE WITH THE TALIBAN.
In other words, Al Qaeda is the big scary bogeyman that Bush and pals want everybody to be scared of and that they are using to justify their continued occupation of Iraq with, while in reality (and behind the scenes) they are trying to appease these same criminals. Now why is that?
What is the difference between IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN?
Answer that question and you have the real motivations behind the American Occupation.
By Bruno, at 11:08 am
Hala,
Dear Hala, too bad we will never meet for a cup of coffee,
Iraq is part of all of us, only some don't realize this spritual fact. But to understand what I mean, one shouldn't call it "Iraq". The situation there is not so terribly new. We(this "we" is all of us too) have done it to ourselves, man against himself, quite often. We generally have a great toleration for pain and suffering, and secondly we have developed such a spiritual sickness, that we actually believe that poison is food to make us healthy--this is why some can believe the US is a saint entering the sick soul of Iraq to heal it....of itself.
take care Hala, try to get some rest. We all pray, for ourselves especially. ;-)
By Unknown, at 2:00 pm
Umm, no. Raed is a bona fide American citizen. Ruminate on that as you grit your teeth.
And he calls for American troops to be killed in Iraq? That's the definition of treason! Rendering aid and comfort to the enemy! Forget deportation then! The penalty for treason is death!
Thanks for the info, Bruno! I'll see what I can do with it!
By Anonymous, at 3:30 pm
Hala, read Bruno's comments carefully and you'll see why nobody but partisan's from either extreme is interested in reading Iraqi political blogs anymore. He, and others like him, are incapable of having a civil discourse. Not everyone is willing to put up with his abuse.
By Anonymous, at 3:35 pm
I've never even read "Little Green Footballs" let alone commented there. I've commented on ITM maybe 5 or 6 times - less than most Iraqis, I'm guessing. So what the hell is this crack about "my" version of a moderate, Bruno?
Raed is a bona fide American citizen.Ruminate on that as you grit your teeth.
Odd how he blogged about applying for his Green Card (residency permit) a year or so ago, isn't it?
You knew Raed wasn't a citizen before you typed that, didn't you, Bruno? Be honest :P
That's called "knowingly telling a lie," buddy.
Hala, thanks for the effort. You made a good post, and I think your heart is in the right place. Now that Bruno is here, I'm gone from this conversation, though. I have better things to do than engage in yet another tedious hatefest with the likes of him.
By Anonymous, at 4:01 pm
Dear HalaS,
now you (and any reader who didn't know him already) can see what this 'Craig' (and those of his ilk) precisely is...
By Anonymous, at 4:52 pm
People get tired of being insulted and attacked on a personal level for stating their opinions,
Exactly. Looks like many Iraqis welcome their comment sections being taken over by defamors like the Italian.
What Hala stated has some very interesting aspects but I'm tired of going through all the 'Al-Qaeda doesn't exist in Al-Anbar'-fabrications and personal accusations all over Iraqi blogosphere. My questions aren't answered anyhow, seems people prefer believing those lies.
By :: Katrin, at 6:17 am
Who said there is no al Qaeda in Iraq or Anbar?
I referred to them as Wahabis and Takfiris.
But before we agree or deny. Why don't you put it this way "Who allowed them in?"
And one other thing, I don't know why none Iraqis seem to feel that they are experts on Iraq, and they know better than the people who live the daily ordeal. Or at least in my case have families and friends inside.
We either have constructive discussions to help find a solution or stop this hate campaign.
By hala_s, at 9:05 am
[craig] “The penalty for treason is death! Thanks for the info, Bruno! I'll see what I can do with it!”
I think that’s quite enough “info” for you. Know that I keep a comprehensive database of all the blogs I visit, including your comments and threats to Raed’s person. Should anything happen … well, you know the drill.
By Bruno, at 12:40 pm
[Katrina] “I'm tired of going through all the 'Al-Qaeda doesn't exist in Al-Anbar'-fabrications”
Yeah, funny that when it comes down to brass tacks, the invasionists are “tired” or, in the case of Ella, they have their posts “swallowed” by Blogger.
Here’s a series of fabrications and / or distortions JUST FOR YOU Katrina:
US claim of Qaeda Iraq weakness may reflect reality
By Fredrik Dahl - May 9,2006 - Reuters
“ The U.S. military published late on Monday what it said was a captured al Qaeda document that showed the militant group recognised it was weak and unpopular in Baghdad. [...] Ranstorp said he did not believe al Qaeda had any problems finding new recruits from outside Iraq eager to fight the U.S. military, but said the movement had become more unpopular inside the country, partly due to attacks on crowds of civilians. [...] The document published by the U.S. military showed the unknown author putting the strength of active fighters, referred to as "mujahideen" or holy warriors, at about 110 in Baghdad. "These are very small numbers compared to the tens of thousands of the enemy troops," it said. "How can we increase these numbers?" //end
and:
Beginning of the end for Zarqawi group, says Iraq
Michael Howard in Irbil - June 16, 2006 - The Guardian
Iraqi and US officials claimed yesterday that they were close to breaking the back of al-Qaida in Iraq, after hundreds of raids in recent days yielded a trove of information about the group's movements, bases and tactics, as well as more than 700 captives. Documents and computer equipment retrieved from the rubble where Abu Musab al-Zarqawi died last Wednesday indicated that the group was struggling to get new recruits and losing both members and weaponry to regular US raids.
[...]
"We believe this is the beginning of the end of al-Qaida in Iraq," Mr Rubaie told a news conference in Baghdad. "We feel we know their locations, the names of their leaders, their whereabouts, their movements, through the documents we found during the last few days." //end
Alright, so here we have two documents showing that Al Qaeda has 110 men left in Baghdad, that they are extremely unpopular in Iraq, and that show their entire operational structure has been laid bare and savaged. If you know ANYTHING about guerrilla warfare, Katrina, this essentially says that AQ in Iraq is screwed, big time.
And now we have this gem:
Al-Qaeda gains strength in Sunni heartland
Kuwait Times (from AP) – October 2006
In Baghdad, US spokesman Maj Gen William Caldwell said yesterday that Al-Qaeda was "making a concerted effort to gain legitimacy" by promoting itself as a credible organization "that appeals to Iraqis in desperate social and economic situations while projecting a civic-minded image." He also said Al-Qaeda was seeking to build support "from whole tribes rather than individual Iraqi citizens."
[…]
The death last June of Al-Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi appears to have made little dent in support for the terror group. Most of Al-Qaeda's fighters are Iraqis rather than foreign fighters, US officials say. In Ramadi, for example, US commanders estimate that a quarter of the fighters are Al-Qaeda members. In Haditha, Cooling called Al-Qaeda the most prominent insurgent group in "influence and resources." //end
By Bruno, at 12:42 pm
This series of contrasts AMPLY illustrates my point.
In June Al Qaeda was totally finished, its numbers were pathetic and its leader killed, with the entire organisational structure demolished. NOW, all of a sudden, it has thousands of recruits and is gathering strength from the Sunni Anbar tribes and has virtually thrown the US out of Anbar.
Clearly, something is seriously wrong here.
Clearly, either:
Al Qaeda, an organisation which is de facto despised in Iraq even by the sunnis, has managed the impossible, and bounced back in a HUGE way after Zarqawi’s demise, basically kicking US booty all over the desert in a few short months …
OR
… the US is LYING about the allegiance of the Iraqis in Anbar and elsewhere, in an effort to legitimise the killing of Iraqis and to politically legitimise the continued presence of US troops in Iraq in the context of Bushite propaganda.
I leave it to any THINKING human (not simian cro-magnons) to conclude which option is more likely.
By Bruno, at 12:44 pm
Who said there is no al Qaeda in Iraq or Anbar? I referred to them as Wahabis and Takfiris.
I didn't mean you, Hala. I just came over here from another very interesting Iraqi blog learning about what's really going on in Al-Anbar. Then I read Brunos long tirades about the real purpose of US occupation, with Al-Anbar just fitted into his never-changing scheme. The picture he paints of Al-Anbar is in total contrast to what I've learned in other Iraqi blogs.
But before we agree or deny.Why don't you put it this way "Who allowed them in?"
You're pointing at the US. I'm more interested in "Who sends them in", because we face a similar problem in Afghanistan and Lebanon. In each of these three countries the role of the US is a different one. Whereas the pattern of those who put at stake the peace and welfare of the three nations remains the same. That's why I think it's time for the international community, and for me especially the Europeans, to take a firm position against those neighbours.
And one other thing, I don't know why none Iraqis seem to feel that they are experts on Iraq, and they know better than the people who live the daily ordeal. Or at least in my case have families and friends inside.
Bruno just proofed my point. I'm not an expert about Iraq, that's why I have questions. I'd like to know about certain issues from Iraqis, instead I have my questions answered by Bruno. We're lucky in this comment sections Annie hasn't stepped in yet with her oil obsession.
Can you imagine how hard it is to select information when Iraqi blogs are flooded with people whose fabrications I can repeat in my sleep?
By :: Katrin, at 7:20 am
al qaeda is a non problem in lebanon.
as for how/when they got into afghanistan, i thought that was common knowledge by now. you might want to google the civil war.
By Anonymous, at 12:33 pm
I know what Katrin is refering to, but i am wondering if Katrin indicating that waging war aginst both Iran and Syria would solve the problem??
The problem is not with who send them - this is another issue and will divert the whole attention to the real issue - the problem is with a force that occupied a country for a purpose, the problem with a government replaced the former regime, and both are participating in slaughtering innocent people directly or indirectly.
To put it simply and i said before: the occupier must restore order in the place they occupy. The government should clean up the mess caused by the former regime and the consequences to the war on social, political and financial aspects.
By MixMax, at 2:39 pm
If there is order restored in the country, no wahabis or even satanist will dare to kill a chicken in Iraq, but Al Qaida and any group inside Iraq, including the militias are benefiting from the chaos to achieve their goals
By MixMax, at 2:41 pm
Mixmax,
i am wondering if Katrin indicating that waging war aginst both Iran and Syria would solve the problem??
Let's add Pakistan for the sake of Afghanistan. War is always the last solution, there are other measures available. We should have learned from history, though, that no measure works if you exclude the final step (war) from the beginning and if international community doesn't take a common position.
These are - in my view - the grave mistakes that sent Iraq into the current situation, which is more hopeless than Afghanistan even though Iraq had far better chances in the beginning.
Your proposal of restoring order sounds very much like the measures 24 steps to liberty recently offered. Bush repeated twice in this week's speech that Americans are patient but their patience is limited. You might be on the same track there.
It's a tightrope walk, though. The US want (and have) to respect Iraq's autonomy and not only international media will interprete any action as a sign of a longterm occupation.
Reading through the blogs I'd guess more than two thirds of Iraqi bloggers would think like that. Let alone the 60% of Americans who are against the war.
I read an interesting argument this week. Should the US have listened to the majority of the French who sticked with the Vichy regime or to the minority of the Resistance? Maybe the same argument applies to the current situation, I'm not sure.
By :: Katrin, at 10:14 am
[katrin] “The picture he paints of Al-Anbar is in total contrast to what I've learned in other Iraqi blogs.”
For example … ?
[hala] “But before we agree or deny. Why don't you put it this way "Who allowed them in?"
[katrin] “You're pointing at the US.”
There’s two ways to look at this.
One: Katrin is right, I’m wrong, and there are thousands of foreign Al Qaeda troops in Anbar that have taken over the place and are intimidating the formerly combative Iraqi tribes into silence.
In which case Hala’s question is very relevant, because it simply goes to show (again) what an utter disaster this war has been, and the immoral way that the US has turned Iraq into a battleground for itself and Al Qaeda. This would be according to the sick “flypaper” strategy, where the US gets to draw AQ into Iraq and fight them there instead of to America, and Iraqis get to die instead of Americans.
Sweet, if you happen to be the sort of American wingnut that sees nothing immoral with this.
Two: I’m right, and Katrin’s wrong, and the US has simply been labelling all native Iraqi Resistance as “Al Qaeda”. This fits in with the previous low tallies of 1-2000 foreign fighters in a total tally of Iraqi Resistance counted in the multiple tens of thousands. Again, this is a powerful argument for US voters at home for the argument of “staying the course” which simply translates to “stay in Iraq until Iraqis don’t fight back any more”. There is a moral difference between killing Iraqis that are defending their homes and killing the fanatics that knocked down the WTC. The US is tarring legitimate resistance with the blackest of brushes.
[katrin] “I'm more interested in "Who sends them in", because we face a similar problem in Afghanistan and Lebanon”
The “similar problem” is one of the native populace raising arms to defend themselves. The Lebanese Hizbullah are LEBANESE. Sure, Iran has helped them, but so what? The US helps Israel, right?
The Afghan problem is that the Taliban (which I am not a fan of, BTW) draws its strength from the native Pashtuns. They make up 65% of the populace there. They have finally become fed up with foreign troops stomping around and are raising their weapons. 2007 will be a bloody year in Afghanistan, you can mark it down. There are rumours that Pakistan and the Waziris are supplying aid to them, but it’s not cut and dried.
[katrin] “Should the US have listened to the majority of the French who sticked with the Vichy regime or to the minority of the Resistance?”
True … should the US stick with the minority Vichy government in Iraq, or should the US listen to the majority of the Iraqis supporting a sovereign Iraq? Decisions, decisions.
By Bruno, at 1:56 pm
[mixmax] “To put it simply and i said before: the occupier must restore order in the place they occupy.”
The problem is, who decides what is “order” or not. “Order” to some people means an Iraq that is run by Iraqis, for Iraqis. To other people it means Iraq run by Iraqis for Americans.
The US has had MANY chances to include the Resistance within the political process, simply by agreeing to withdraw (which the US promises it will do anyway) and by agreeing to an amnesty for Iraqis that have killed Americans in the defence of their country. Every single time either of these issues has been raised, the US has vetoed it, one way or another.
Simply, the Americans are saying: “my way or the high way.”
The chaos stems directly from this attitude.
If the fighting stopped, it would be a simple matter by comparison to rein in the criminals and the sectarian killers.
By Bruno, at 2:00 pm
bruno, I wouldn't agree with you more, but all what I am stating is a fact proved by historical events in the relationship between the occupier and the people of the country he occupies. Well, this occupiers has defied everything from history to conventions to agreements or protocols, didn't the occupiers invaded Iraq based on lame excueses??
By MixMax, at 8:35 pm
My heart breaks every day for Iraqis.
By Hajar Zamzam Ismail, at 8:57 pm
[mixmax] "Well, this occupiers has defied everything from history to conventions to agreements or protocols, didn't the occupiers invaded Iraq based on lame excueses??"
Yes, for sure.
Sometimes I wonder if the plan isn't to empty Iraq of Iraqis, to make their designs on the country easier. As a famous tyrant once said: ""no people, no problem".
Gosh, things would be much easier for the US if Iraq wasn't so full of them Eye-rakis, right?
By Bruno, at 6:58 am
Bruno,
I don't think there is an intention of emptying Iraq from the Iraqis, there is a new market, and the market require customers. The situation will not remain the way it is now. I am sure, there will be a solution, I am not sure, though, what and how this solution will take shape, but we have to remmember that it is not only the American the sole players in the region
By MixMax, at 10:07 pm
[mixmax] "I don't think there is an intention of emptying Iraq from the Iraqis, there is a new market, and the market require customers."
Like I said, it's not a fact, it's merely a sneaking suspicion that certain American quarters might well by now be wishing that Iraq wasn't so fullof Iraqis.
To be sure, other big players such as Iran and Turkey have not yet become fully involved in the Iraqi debacle. They're dipping their toes into the pool and wondering when their turn might come.
That might herald another wave of violence, with Iraqis bearing the brunt of the casualties as usual.
But, as I always say, we could never have come to this situation without the intervention of the Americans, who, a few months after they leave, will no longer remember the consequences of their deeds.
By Bruno, at 7:08 am
I have read several of your posts and wanted to say that although I realize you are writing about something very tragic, you write very beautifully.
By Anonymous, at 2:48 am
Certain blogs would prefer to be echo chambers and this is one of them. Only one type of opinion is allowed. There is no room for intelligent argument backed by facts or honest disagreement. It's "Our Way or the Highway" - funny isn't it that this is precisely the accusation that you level at America???
By Anonymous, at 9:22 pm
Certain blogs would prefer to be echo chambers and this is one of them. Only one type of opinion is allowed. There is no room for intelligent argument backed by facts or honest disagreement. It's "Our Way or the Highway" - funny isn't it that this is precisely the accusation that you level at America???
hi craig??
By Anonymous, at 11:44 pm
Yeah, sneaking back anonymously in order to have one last jab ... that's how I imagine him.
By Bruno, at 7:00 am
Miraj wrote;
"An Italian, some people are paid to harass us on our own blogs so the world wouldn't know the truth and real percentage of Americans who appose the war."
You've a high opinion of yourself. None cares enough about your pissant blog to pay people to post comments, you moron.
How does posting a contrary opinion on a blog prevent others from knowing the 'real percentage of americans who oppose the war', dumbshit?
By Anonymous, at 5:20 am
Bruno sounds like he's the one paid to post here to me.
By Anonymous, at 8:14 am
GOD SPEAKS to AMERICA!
AMERICA AWAKE!
OPEN YOUR EYES WIDE and LISTEN! The SPIRIT of GOD IS SPEAKING to YOU and SHOWING YOU that HE SPEAKS to HIS PEOPLE in TRUTH without FEAR. YOU ARE NOT ALONE! RISE UP IN PEACE AGAINT LIES and WAR!
Referring the War in Iraq
Rev, Jim Wallis said: “This WAR, from the CHRISTIAN POINT of VIEW, IS MORALLY WRONG and WAS from the BEGINNING.” “This WAR is an OFFENCE AGAINST GOD.” Sojourners/Call to Renewal.
Rev. Raphael G. Warnock said: “CONGRESS is to MORALLY INEPT to INTERVINE and STOP WAR”. “Mr. Bush, my Christian brother. We do need a SURGE in TROOPS.” “We need a SURGE in NON-VIOLENT ARMY of the LORD.” “We need a SURGE in CONSCIENCE and a SURGE in ACTIVISM and a SURGE in TRUTH-TELLING”. Atlanta’s Ebenezer Baptist Church.
Referring George W. Bush
Prophet ZECHARIAH says:
“Woe to the IDOL SHEPHERD that LEAVES the FLOCK! The SWORD shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye; his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.” Chapter 11: 17.
The anti-CHRIST idolizes Military Power and Wealth; he leads in confusion his own people as well as others with fear and lies into WAR. Cowardly he will not exorcise a sword into battle himself; his arm will be dried from Blood and his darkened conscience will not be affected by the spilling of Blood of Innocents.
Prophet HABAKKUK says:
“Woe to him that BUILDS a TOWN with blood, and ESTABLISHES a CITY by INIQUITY!” BEHOLD, IT IS NOT of THE LORD of HOST that the PEOPLE SHALL LABOUR in the VERY (WAR) FIRE, and the PEOPLE shall WEARY themselves for VERY (PRIDE-ARROGANCE) VANITY.” Chapter 2: 12, 13.
The following is the end of part one of:
“THE REVELATION for PEACE from JESUS CHRIST to the World.”
The Prophetic book was given to the prodigal son Ivor Manuel, before the Presidential Elections of 2004 by OUR LORD, it was published then in the web. www.ALEUZENEV.com.
Then, the BOOK of DANIEL [“GOD is my JUDGE” his Hebrew name] continued to be as a night vision of revelations in chapter 7 verse 10, as he opened the BOOKS as commanded by The LORD; for the JUDGEMENT of GOD to the Gentiles has already being SET upon this nation; and now is being brought forth unto TRUTH: “A fiery stream issued and came forth from before Him: thousand thousands ministered unto Him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him; the JUDGEMENT was set, and the BOOKS were OPENED.” Then he saw PSALM 2 again: “Be wise now therefore, O you Kings: be instructed, you Judges of the Earth. . . Serve the LORD with fear and rejoice with trembling.” And HIS voice thundered “Behold! Behold! I AM the PRINCE of PEACE, the only ONE thus says the LORD, and as I said before I say now; this is in deed the Time to bring JUDGEMENTMENT to the Gentiles and reveal TRUTH to the nations, here is a little and there comes a little more.”
And behold; the night vision was now like in a great television screen showing the name: The King of MYSTERY BABYLON the GREAT; then there appeared the President of the United States of America; dressed with a tricolor hooded cloak garment of stars. And he had in his head a crown of gold that was melting; and the precious metal was going into his eyes making him blind; and when he walked toward a ceremonial bowl filled with water to clean his eyes; he then tripped his foot against a Stone, a tried Stone, a precious corner Stone set by the ceremonial bowl that was filled with water. And as he stumbled and fell, his right foot got caught into the ceremonial vessel and the water turned to blood. The President was trying desperately to get his foot out of the bowl while his back was against the floor; but his foot was caught in the vessel with his greed and egotistical pride; and he was shaking his foot with anger and the satisfaction of force while on his back; but the ritual kettle was boiling over with the sacrificial blood of multitudes of humans and melting his sword. Poor and innocent soldiers from many nations, poor and innocent civilians from Afghanistan and Iraq; the blood of poor and innocent children, women and elders from the all over the World was overflowing along his side. And his cabinet along with the republican and democratic courts, and the clergy were there by his side; standing on their knees inebriated with the wrath of his wine; as the American ceremonial vessel became a drowning river of blood. And there came on the screen the words written: “The LAMENTATION of ABOMINABLE HIPOCRASY.”
I Pray for AMERICA and PEACE for the WORLD.
“Chosen and Faithful, you have been called to stand for the Gospel of Peace at the right hand of the LORD.” Behold! ALELUYA!...AMEN!...ALEUZENEV! Ivor Manuel prophet
By Anonymous, at 8:29 pm
Back to the Future 4/19/1993, 4/19/195, 4/20/1999, 4/16/07
Where is the Wisdom of a Great Nation?
The wisdom is in the teachings of the Government and its actions as well.
Where is the Moral of a Great Nation?
The Moral is in the Law of GOD and the Works of HIS people.
Is Wisdom then found in the teaching of Violence and Works of Peace doing WAR?
If this was thus, a Great Nation would have no Enemies
4/19/1993
On this day United States Government forces taught Violence, Killing almost 100 innocent women and children with Battle tanks, flame throwers and poison gas as the people watched “Terror on television.” This killing of innocent civilians was a cruel act of Terrorism.
4/19/1995
On this day Timothy McVeigh, whom learn the teachings of Violence from the United State Army, “terrorized the nation” bombing the Murrah Federal Building and killing 168 innocents, many of them children.
1/1/1999
On this day the Nation was warned in a tourist magazine with these prophetic words: “If the people of America fail to fire (Impeach) the KING, (President Bill Clinton) they will bring great commendation upon the land of America.” Read www.aleuzenev.com
4/20/1999
By this day the President had not been impeached out of office. On this day Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold executed terror at Columbine High School with guns, killing 12 school mates and one teacher before they committed suicide. On April of 1999 prior to the “Columbine massacre”; the WORD of The LORD came to me and is written in the second report saying: “The chaplain prays for the assembled, the plaintiff and defendant swear under Oath; and yet, the Judge keeps order and marks time while the Jury hears perversion of The Truth. This is the “Law of the Land;” therefore the “King and his lies” slipped in to the New Millennium.” Now, In July 1999 a third report was dictated by The LORD; The WORD given and published is the following: “You are MY brother, the ALEUZENEV prophet, whom will spread the rest and the refreshing of MY WORD for the new Millennium. But for now begin calling our Jewish brothers, because ADONAI, is calling them to ALEUZENEV which is the name of HIS CITY, which is New JERUSALEM; that comes out of HEAVEN from HIM, and MY New Name.” [See REVELATION 3: 12.] The prophet then called HIS brothers as commanded by The LORD saying: “Vengan mis hermanos Judios para ALEUZENEV”; meaning spiritually: “Come to The LORD all you that have a Vision of PEACE”; but nobody has answered that called yet. JESUS also said: “And tell our brothers; do not be afraid of Death, because Death is among you; but be afraid of not living a RIGHTEOUS LIFE, because if you don’t, you shall die.” Many more things like this are recorded at www.aleuzenez.com
4/16/07 On this day Cho Sheng Hui killed 32 of his brothers and sisters and himself at Virginia Tech University. On this day the people of America are in derision thinking why this could happen? And the Liar said; “they where in the wrong place at the wrong time.” But I know: “To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under Heaven; a time to be born and a time to die.” Ecclesiastes 3. Then, someone else said; “We are Virginia Tech! We will prevail! We will prevail! We will prevail!” But the LORD says to AMERICA: “You shall not prevail with your words! You shall not prevail with your might and WAR! You shall not prevail with Technology and Pride. But, BY MY SPIRIT shall you prevail and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. Thus Says the LORD! AMERICA REPENT!
Ivor Manuel Prophet, April 20, 2007, Year of OUR LORD. Aleluya! Amen! Aleuzenev!
By Anonymous, at 7:09 pm
There are plenty of forums where we foreigners can critisise US policies and the iraq war in particular (and I belive we should). But I think it´s more polite to hold back the polemics at the iraqi blogs. People in general that visit these sites are intrested in the situation in Iraq and the daily life of her citizens.
Genuine questions and some appreciation should do. //Calle
By Anonymous, at 12:22 am
LOVE'S BRIDGE
We´ve made a bridge between us now
Which is what you´d call love,
Though at the start, no I-and-thou
Relationship to prove.
No special "soul-mate" spark there was
To kindle, like a movie,
Just two amenable, and thus
It led to something groovy.
Our daily life is marred by this:
The knowledge that, despite
The sky-blue perfect day, there is
Far off a greater fight.
Criminals send our toops abroad
"In our name" making war,
While climate change is called a fraud--
This world is such a bore.
By Anonymous, at 4:45 pm
Most of your post looked like bigotry, to me. I'm asking again... why do you want to live in Britain? You obviously don't like the British! I don't either, but I don't choose to live in a country where I loathe the people. You know what I'm talking about? And please don't move to the US.
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learn something useful
By mewmewmew, at 3:51 pm
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